I am an older teacher and many of the shorts just don't look good on an older body. These are at waist level and come just above my knees. I am 5'2". I don't like the skimpy shorts the girls are wearing now. I wear a large and these shorts probably wouldn't fit a lot of my larger students but they look good on me. It is really fun that they are reversible and can go to a solid black. I have ordered these shorts in three dfferent colors.